From novalis at fsf.org Wed Jan 18 21:41:39 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:41:39 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction Message-ID: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> Greetings to the mighty committee D, most fearsome of all discussion commitees. As we discussed, I'm collecting notes from the initial meeting to build into a set of minutes. Please send me your notes. Soon, you will all be given access to edit the commitee D web pages on gplv3.fsf.org. I'll email you when the sysadmins tell me that's up and working (for all I know, it may be working for you now, but it doesn't work for me yet). Louis and whomever else was recording, please put the recordings on the committee site once you have access. I can't figure out how to make the mailing list available for posting only by subscribers yet, so it might be wise to not give out this address until I can manage that. Of course, the list is archived, and archives will be available to the public. I'll send out minutes as soon as I get the notes, and I'll see you on IRC on Tuesday. -- -Dave Turner V3 Coordinator From micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net Fri Jan 20 15:14:39 2006 From: micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net (Mick Weiss) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:14:39 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction Message-ID: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> I accidentally sent this to Dave and not the list (so I'm resending). Can we change the list behavior, so "Reply" will reply to the list? David Turner wrote: > > Greetings to the mighty committee D, most fearsome of all discussion > > commitees. > > > Hahahaha. I'm sure ;-) > > As we discussed, I'm collecting notes from the initial meeting to build > > into a set of minutes. Please send me your notes. > > > Will these go on a wiki or a webdav server or similar (gobby?) -- just out of curiosity. > > Soon, you will all be given access to edit the commitee D web pages on > > gplv3.fsf.org. I'll email you when the sysadmins tell me that's up and > > working (for all I know, it may be working for you now, but it doesn't > > work for me yet). > > > > Louis and whomever else was recording, > I guess this was addressed to me ;-) - Just let me know where to put it up online and I'll do it. The first one turned out ok - the second wasn't that good. > > please put the recordings on the > > committee site once you have access. > > > > I can't figure out how to make the mailing list available for posting > > only by subscribers yet, so it might be wise to not give out this > > address until I can manage that. Of course, the list is archived, and > > archives will be available to the public. > > > I believe that you guys use GNU/Mailman - set the generic_nonmember_action to "Hold". The posting will appear on the administrative requests page, and you will be given an opportunity to add the non-member or dispose of the held message. > > I'll send out minutes as soon as I get the notes, and I'll see you on > > IRC on Tuesday. > > > See you then. - Mick From don at donarmstrong.com Fri Jan 20 17:30:42 2006 From: don at donarmstrong.com (Don Armstrong) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:30:42 -0800 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> References: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <20060120223042.GA28908@archimedes.ucr.edu> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Mick Weiss wrote: > Can we change the list behavior, so "Reply" will reply to the list? Most useful MTAs[1] actually have a "list-reply" feature which specifically addresses replies to a mailing list as opposed to the actual poster; of course, they also have configuration options like ignore_list_reply_to which ignore the Reply-To: of lists which override Reply-To:. Don Armstrong 1: Like GNUS or mutt -- If you find it impossible to believe that the universe didn't have a creator, why don't you find it impossible that your creator didn't have one either? -- Anonymous Coward http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167556&cid=13970629 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/committee-d/attachments/20060120/99303835/attachment.pgp From novalis at fsf.org Fri Jan 20 18:06:54 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:06:54 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> References: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <1137798414.10705.105.camel@banks> On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 15:14 -0500, Mick Weiss wrote: > I accidentally sent this to Dave and not the list (so I'm resending). > Can we change the list behavior, so "Reply" will reply to the list? Bring it up at the next meeting :) > David Turner wrote: > > > As we discussed, I'm collecting notes from the initial meeting to build > > > into a set of minutes. Please send me your notes. > > > > > > Will these go on a wiki or a webdav server or similar (gobby?) -- just > out of curiosity. They are presently on gplv3.fsf.org in the Committee D section. Please feel free to edit that section, but remember that substantive edits will require approval from the committee. -- -Dave Turner V3 Coordinator From jblack at merconline.com Fri Jan 20 18:29:25 2006 From: jblack at merconline.com (James Blackwell) Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:29:25 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <1137798414.10705.105.camel@banks> References: <43D144AF.3050806@users.sourceforge.net> <1137798414.10705.105.camel@banks> Message-ID: <20060120232925.GA21311@merconline.com> On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 06:06:54PM -0500, David Turner wrote: > They are presently on gplv3.fsf.org in the Committee D section. Please > feel free to edit that section, but remember that substantive edits will > require approval from the committee. I performed a number of edits that I think would be considered minor. I've set up a resources page that lists the irc channel, the minutes page and a members/gpg fingerprint page. As a side note John Sullivan was kind enough to add me to our mailing list today. This leaves open the possibility that other members may not be on the list yet either. -- James Blackwell's home : http://jblack.linuxguru.net Gnupg 06357400 F-print AAE4 8C76 58DA 5902 761D 247A 8A55 DA73 0635 7400 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll email you when the sysadmins tell me that's up and > working (for all I know, it may be working for you now, but it doesn't > work for me yet). > > Louis and whomever else was recording, please put the recordings on the > committee site once you have access. > > I can't figure out how to make the mailing list available for posting > only by subscribers yet, so it might be wise to not give out this > address until I can manage that. Of course, the list is archived, and > archives will be available to the public. > > I'll send out minutes as soon as I get the notes, and I'll see you on > IRC on Tuesday. > > By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? From zak at greant.com Sat Jan 21 19:04:16 2006 From: zak at greant.com (Zak Greant) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:04:16 +0100 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> Message-ID: > By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? If I recall correctly, we were to discuss how best to enable international participation in the GPL v3 process. Cheers! --zak From jblack at merconline.com Sat Jan 21 19:21:11 2006 From: jblack at merconline.com (James Blackwell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:21:11 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060122002111.GA10761@merconline.com> On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 01:04:16AM +0100, Zak Greant wrote: > > By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? > > If I recall correctly, we were to discuss how best to enable > international participation in the GPL v3 process. I had forgotten as well. I've updated our committee page to reflect this. -- My home page: James Blackwell Gnupg 06357400 F-print AAE4 8C76 58DA 5902 761D 247A 8A55 DA73 0635 7400 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I suggest that we proceed as we planned initially and that we share our ideas with the international group. Cheers! --zak From don at donarmstrong.com Sun Jan 22 04:00:55 2006 From: don at donarmstrong.com (Don Armstrong) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:00:55 -0800 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Comments RSS to Email List Message-ID: <20060122090055.GJ5145@rzlab.ucr.edu> Since I'm not much a fan of web based stuff, I went ahead and made an rss2email feed of the gplv3 comments page. Feel free to subscribe to the one that I'v'e created: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gplv3-comments-rss [I'll try to keep it running and avoid spamming you with duplicate comments, but no guarantees.] Don Armstrong -- Grimble left his mother in the food store and went to the launderette and watched the clothes go round. It was a bit like colour television only with less plot. -- Clement Freud _Grimble_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/committee-d/attachments/20060122/33d45b42/attachment.pgp From DRickerby at choate.com Sun Jan 22 20:57:49 2006 From: DRickerby at choate.com (Rickerby, David G.) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:57:49 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Agenda References: <20060122090055.GJ5145@rzlab.ucr.edu> Message-ID: <8FA1A1183C932643BC3B0E08814DC2250C99CD@EXCHMAILV1.chs.choate.com> I modified the Agenda to pick up a couple of other items we were kicking around. Namely: 1. Taking nominations for new members (people wanted to go check their address books) and 2. Scheduling a reoccuring date on which we will meet. It would be nice if people could come with calendars and nomination in hand ready to discuss these items. On new members, I was thinking it might make sense to nominate folks at one meeting and vote at the next? To allow time for practical consideration and email discussion? Also, added an agenda item for consideration of issues. Although I do enjoy the procedural stuff, would be nice to get down to work. ;-) DGR -----Original Message----- From: committee-d-bounces at gplv3.fsf.org on behalf of Don Armstrong Sent: Sun 1/22/2006 4:00 AM To: committee-d at gplv3.fsf.org Cc: Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Comments RSS to Email List Since I'm not much a fan of web based stuff, I went ahead and made an rss2email feed of the gplv3 comments page. Feel free to subscribe to the one that I'v'e created: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gplv3-comments-rss [I'll try to keep it running and avoid spamming you with duplicate comments, but no guarantees.] Don Armstrong -- Grimble left his mother in the food store and went to the launderette and watched the clothes go round. It was a bit like colour television only with less plot. -- Clement Freud _Grimble_ http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu **************************************************************************** This Message is transmitted to you by the law firm of Choate, Hall & Stewart LLP. The substance of this message, along with any attachments, may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the designated recipient of this message, please destroy it and notify the sender of the error by return e-mail or by calling 1-800-520-2427. 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Of these issues, a couple of them are becoming more ripe to begin actually talking about and discussing with a view to first promote them to being issues, and then making a concise statement about them: 1. Anti DMCA Segment Confusing [anti_dcma_segment_confusing:15] 2. Copyright/Warranty Information on Startup [copyright_info_on_startup:13] 3. Dissallowing Illegal things (and the conflict with freedom 0) [disallow_illegal_things:11] 4. DRM and allowing authentication/secured tranport [drm_allowing_authentication:9] 5. Physical media for source too expensive (10 times your cost) [physical_media_for_source_too_expensive:7] In the above list, the numbers after the colon are the number of comments which I have assigned to that category; I'm currently about 2/3rds of the way through the comments which have been made in the past 7 days. Since what comments are important is just my own opinion, I think you all should go through the comments in whatever manner makes you comfortable and start separating them out into your own piles; I discarded a substantial number of them because I didn't feel they were appropriate or interesting to me. You'll likely feel differently. The mailboxes themselves and the full list is available here: http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/projects/gplv3/issue_mailboxes/ svn co http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/projects/gplv3/issue_mailboxes if you want your own copy $ ls |xargs grep -c From: 60_days_too_short:6 affero_exception:7 aggregate_work_confusing:1 anti_dcma_segment_confusing:15 contract_in_other_locales:1 copyright_info_on_startup:13 disallow_illegal_things:11 drm_allowing_authentication:9 drm_and_freedom_zero:2 dual_licensing_conflicts:1 extend_source_requirement:6 gpl_as_free_software:1 grammar:6 license_approver:1 license_compatibility:1 loopholes:2 make_non_termination_obvious:1 os_exemption_clarification:3 patent_licensing_clarification:9 patent_retaliation:6 physical_media_for_source_too_expensive:7 source_distribution_location_abiguous:3 unlimited_rights_to_run_vs_restrictions_on_running:1 verification_of_source_access:1 Don Armstrong -- Never underestimate the power of human stupidity. -- Robert Heinlein http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, - Mick From novalis at fsf.org Mon Jan 23 19:07:40 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:07:40 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] meeting tomarrow In-Reply-To: <43D53283.10403@users.sourceforge.net> References: <43D53283.10403@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <1138061261.31973.60.camel@banks> We will be posting the logs, of course. Also, if anyone will not be there, and wishes to make their thoughts known, you can send them to me and I will paste them in at the beginning of the meeting. We'll also post minutes. On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 14:46 -0500, Mick Weiss wrote: > I just checked my calendar, and I just realized that I won't be able to > be on irc during that time (which is really odd for me since I'm always > on irc) ;-) > I will be picking up Marc at that time (EST = GMT - 5 <--- right?). > > He will present at my local LUG: > http://www.flux.org/announcements.php?show=63 > > I'm not sure how we forgot about this. :-/ > If at all possible, could I add my 2 cents before or after the meeting? > Maybe someone could send me a "meeting wrap up"? I'm in the channel now > (and for most of today). > > Regards, > > - Mick > _______________________________________________ > Committee-D mailing list > Committee-D at gplv3.fsf.org > http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d From novalis at fsf.org Tue Jan 24 14:28:35 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:28:35 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] IRC meeting is on Freenode Message-ID: <1138130916.31973.116.camel@banks> Despite Brad's email, the IRC meeting will be held on Freenode as planned. We can use the v3 server in the future if we want to, but since it only permits committee members to join, it doesn't seem to be the appropriate forum for Committee D's meetings. From novalis at fsf.org Tue Jan 24 19:32:41 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:32:41 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Meeting minutes Message-ID: <1138149161.31973.164.camel@banks> Here are the meeting minutes from today's meeting (to be approved at the next meeting). Please examine comments in the comments system and start assembling issues via the mailing list for next week's meeting. Committee D GPLv3 Meeting 1/24/2006 People present Don Armstrong David Turner David Rickerby Mark Doliner Jacob Fenwick Zak Greant Massimo Tisi Biella Coleman Daniel Scales Richard Fontana Bradley Kuhn James Blackwell Steven Edwards Jean-Baptiste Soufron Regrets: obra (Jesse Vincent) mick (Mick Wiess) Election for coordinator Zak selected, 8-0 in favor (Jacob Fenwick addressed order_bit instead of order_bot, novalis_dt doesn't actually get a vote) Moved: Table discussion of international membership till next meeting. (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) Passed by consensus. Moved: approve minutes at http://gplv3.fsf.org/discussion-committees/D/minutes/minutes_20060116 (Rickerby) second (dondelelcaro+Jackob_Fenwick) passed by consensus Moved: (a) make email archives public with (b) member addresses obfuscated, but (c) message-ids in appropriate headers not obfuscated and (d) if feasible, mbox archives accessible (ZakGreant) passed by consensus Moved: weekly meetings at this time and place. (Rickerby) passed by consensus Nominated: Mike Nordell of Abiword (Tamlin) by sedwards. novalis will send this out via devotee as soon as it's set up. Moved: Nominations for new committee members are made via email. Voting is performed via devotee, with results viewed by someone chosen by the FSF. Voting is open for one full week after the nomination. (ZakGreant) second (jblack, tomislav_medak) passed by consensus Motion: (process to deal with raising comments to issues) 1. possible issue raised from comments; 2. committee votes 3. volunteers assigned to plumb issue, pulling more comments if necessary, keeping an eye out for future comments (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) passed by consensus Issue: Comment 345 and 617 should comprise one issue. sedwards will be issue steward passed 8-0 motion to adjourn until next week tuesday (1/31/2006) at 2200UTC (dondelelcaro) second (ZakGreant) passed by consensus From luispo at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 08:37:15 2006 From: luispo at gmail.com (Louis Suarez-Potts) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:37:15 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Meeting minutes In-Reply-To: <1138149161.31973.164.camel@banks> References: <1138149161.31973.164.camel@banks> Message-ID: Hi On 2006-01-24, at 19:32 , David Turner wrote: > Here are the meeting minutes from today's meeting (to be approved > at the > next meeting). Please examine comments in the comments system and > start > assembling issues via the mailing list for next week's meeting. Thanks for the minutes. My apologies for missing this meeting but I was stuck in another meeting that I couldn't get out of. I should be able to attend the next. -louis > > Committee D GPLv3 Meeting 1/24/2006 > > People present > Don Armstrong > David Turner > David Rickerby > Mark Doliner > Jacob Fenwick > Zak Greant > Massimo Tisi > Biella Coleman > Daniel Scales > Richard Fontana > Bradley Kuhn > James Blackwell > Steven Edwards > Jean-Baptiste Soufron > > Regrets: > obra (Jesse Vincent) > mick (Mick Wiess) > > Election for coordinator > Zak selected, 8-0 in favor (Jacob Fenwick addressed order_bit > instead of > order_bot, novalis_dt doesn't actually get a vote) > > Moved: Table discussion of international membership till next meeting. > (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) > Passed by consensus. > > Moved: approve minutes at > http://gplv3.fsf.org/discussion-committees/D/minutes/minutes_20060116 > (Rickerby) second (dondelelcaro+Jackob_Fenwick) > passed by consensus > > Moved: (a) make email archives public with (b) member addresses > obfuscated, but (c) message-ids in appropriate headers not obfuscated > and (d) if feasible, mbox archives accessible > (ZakGreant) > passed by consensus > > Moved: weekly meetings at this time and place. > (Rickerby) > passed by consensus > > Nominated: Mike Nordell of Abiword (Tamlin) by sedwards. novalis will > send this out via devotee as soon as it's set up. > > Moved: Nominations for new committee members are made via email. > Voting > is performed via devotee, with results viewed by someone chosen by the > FSF. Voting is open for one full week after the nomination. > (ZakGreant) second (jblack, tomislav_medak) > passed by consensus > > Motion: (process to deal with raising comments to issues) 1. possible > issue raised from > comments; 2. committee votes 3. volunteers assigned to plumb issue, > pulling more > comments if necessary, keeping an eye out for future comments > (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) > passed by consensus > > > Issue: Comment 345 and 617 should comprise one issue. sedwards will be > issue steward > passed 8-0 > > motion to adjourn until next week tuesday (1/31/2006) at 2200UTC > (dondelelcaro) second (ZakGreant) > passed by consensus From micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net Wed Jan 25 11:23:17 2006 From: micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net (Mick Weiss) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:23:17 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Meeting minutes In-Reply-To: References: <1138149161.31973.164.camel@banks> Message-ID: <43D7A5F5.8030900@users.sourceforge.net> Thanks for the rundown on what happened. Sorry for not making it but I (as well as Mark Spencer from Digium/Asterisk) had a a prior commitment. I should be able to attend the next one. - Mick Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > Hi > > On 2006-01-24, at 19:32 , David Turner wrote: > > >> Here are the meeting minutes from today's meeting (to be approved >> at the >> next meeting). Please examine comments in the comments system and >> start >> assembling issues via the mailing list for next week's meeting. >> > > Thanks for the minutes. My apologies for missing this meeting but I > was stuck in another meeting that I couldn't get out of. I should be > able to attend the next. > > -louis > > >> Committee D GPLv3 Meeting 1/24/2006 >> >> People present >> Don Armstrong >> David Turner >> David Rickerby >> Mark Doliner >> Jacob Fenwick >> Zak Greant >> Massimo Tisi >> Biella Coleman >> Daniel Scales >> Richard Fontana >> Bradley Kuhn >> James Blackwell >> Steven Edwards >> Jean-Baptiste Soufron >> >> Regrets: >> obra (Jesse Vincent) >> mick (Mick Wiess) >> >> Election for coordinator >> Zak selected, 8-0 in favor (Jacob Fenwick addressed order_bit >> instead of >> order_bot, novalis_dt doesn't actually get a vote) >> >> Moved: Table discussion of international membership till next meeting. >> (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) >> Passed by consensus. >> >> Moved: approve minutes at >> http://gplv3.fsf.org/discussion-committees/D/minutes/minutes_20060116 >> (Rickerby) second (dondelelcaro+Jackob_Fenwick) >> passed by consensus >> >> Moved: (a) make email archives public with (b) member addresses >> obfuscated, but (c) message-ids in appropriate headers not obfuscated >> and (d) if feasible, mbox archives accessible >> (ZakGreant) >> passed by consensus >> >> Moved: weekly meetings at this time and place. >> (Rickerby) >> passed by consensus >> >> Nominated: Mike Nordell of Abiword (Tamlin) by sedwards. novalis will >> send this out via devotee as soon as it's set up. >> >> Moved: Nominations for new committee members are made via email. >> Voting >> is performed via devotee, with results viewed by someone chosen by the >> FSF. Voting is open for one full week after the nomination. >> (ZakGreant) second (jblack, tomislav_medak) >> passed by consensus >> >> Motion: (process to deal with raising comments to issues) 1. possible >> issue raised from >> comments; 2. committee votes 3. volunteers assigned to plumb issue, >> pulling more >> comments if necessary, keeping an eye out for future comments >> (ZakGreant) second (dondelelcaro) >> passed by consensus >> >> >> Issue: Comment 345 and 617 should comprise one issue. sedwards will be >> issue steward >> passed 8-0 >> >> motion to adjourn until next week tuesday (1/31/2006) at 2200UTC >> (dondelelcaro) second (ZakGreant) >> passed by consensus >> > _______________________________________________ > Committee-D mailing list > Committee-D at gplv3.fsf.org > http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d > > > From zak at ez.no Sat Jan 21 18:59:51 2006 From: zak at ez.no (Zak Greant) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 00:59:51 +0100 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <145280BE-0CA5-4AF0-8723-28753A4D9AAB@ez.no> > By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? If I recall correctly, we were to discuss how best to enable international participation in the GPL v3 process. Cheers! --zak From dyfet at gnu.org Sat Jan 21 19:34:45 2006 From: dyfet at gnu.org (David Sugar) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:34:45 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060122003445.GA3009@fencepost> How does this overlap with the efforts of the appearently newly formed international group? Zak Greant wrote: > > By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? > > If I recall correctly, we were to discuss how best to enable > international participation in the GPL v3 process. > > Cheers! > --zak > > _______________________________________________ > Committee-D mailing list > Committee-D at gplv3.fsf.org > http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d From micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net Wed Jan 25 22:19:09 2006 From: micklweiss at users.sourceforge.net (Mick Weiss) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:19:09 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <20060122003445.GA3009@fencepost> References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> <20060122003445.GA3009@fencepost> Message-ID: <43D83FAD.5010401@users.sourceforge.net> I would also be very interested in knowing about this. - Mick David Sugar wrote: > How does this overlap with the efforts of the appearently newly formed > international group? > > Zak Greant wrote: > > >>> By the way, what will be the topic of the IRC meeting ? >>> >> If I recall correctly, we were to discuss how best to enable >> international participation in the GPL v3 process. >> >> Cheers! >> --zak >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Committee-D mailing list >> Committee-D at gplv3.fsf.org >> http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d >> > _______________________________________________ > Committee-D mailing list > Committee-D at gplv3.fsf.org > http://gplv3.fsf.org/mailman/listinfo/committee-d > > > From zak at greant.com Sat Jan 28 09:25:46 2006 From: zak at greant.com (Zak Greant) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 15:25:46 +0100 Subject: [Committee-d] Zak (likely) can't attend 2006/01/31 meeting Message-ID: <53D87100-8C6D-4CB7-A87D-7D9BA6860D8F@greant.com> Greetings All, It is likely that I will be unable to attend the GPL v3 meeting on Tuesday. Next week should be fine. Cheers! --zak From zak at greant.com Sat Jan 28 10:11:20 2006 From: zak at greant.com (Zak Greant) Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:11:20 +0100 Subject: [Committee-d] GPLv3 Committee D introduction In-Reply-To: <43D83FAD.5010401@users.sourceforge.net> References: <1137638499.14753.207.camel@banks> <43D2BB42.3070701@gmail.com> <20060122003445.GA3009@fencepost> <43D83FAD.5010401@users.sourceforge.net> Message-ID: <1EE9188E-27FB-4532-B3F0-DC296029ED40@greant.com> On Jan 26, 2006, at 04:19GMT+01:00, Mick Weiss wrote: > I would also be very interested in knowing about this. Hey Mick, See the notes from the last meeting - we deferred discussing the issue til there were more people in attendance who cared about the issue. Cheers! --zak From novalis at fsf.org Mon Jan 30 16:40:36 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:40:36 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Deadline for new committee members Message-ID: <1138657237.7719.5.camel@banks> Eben has informed me that there is a deadline for new committee members of February 7th. I'm sorry that I haven't gotten the voting software working yet; I asked my sysadmins to have it for this Tuesday's meeting. We'll take final nominations at the next meeting, and then vote over the coming week. -- -- -David Turner GPLv3 Coordinator Free Software Foundation From novalis at fsf.org Mon Jan 30 16:42:05 2006 From: novalis at fsf.org (David Turner) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 16:42:05 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] Conference calling information Message-ID: <1138657325.7719.8.camel@banks> We haven't scheduled any conference calls yet. If we ever do need to, John has placed the dial-in information on the Committee D web area. It is marked private. Please keep it marked private, since it allows anyone to use the V3 conference server at any time. Thanks for your cooperation. -- -- -David Turner GPLv3 Coordinator Free Software Foundation From luispo at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 17:14:42 2006 From: luispo at gmail.com (Louis Suarez-Potts) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:14:42 -0500 Subject: [Committee-d] 2006/01/31 meeting In-Reply-To: <53D87100-8C6D-4CB7-A87D-7D9BA6860D8F@greant.com> References: <53D87100-8C6D-4CB7-A87D-7D9BA6860D8F@greant.com> Message-ID: <94620172-6915-4780-AD6A-9D4CD3363775@gmail.com> Hi I'm trying to connect but am oddly unable to... will continue to try. best Louis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2361 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/committee-d/attachments/20060131/53d8f19b/smime.bin