From mako at atdot.cc Sun Apr 1 15:08:54 2007 From: mako at atdot.cc (Benj. Mako Hill) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:08:54 -0400 Subject: [Committee-d] Draft 3 of GPLv3 Released In-Reply-To: <20070331073831.GE13736@volo.donarmstrong.com> References: <460A79A9.1030204@softwarefreedom.org> <20070328211022.GA13736@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20070329192018.3D9112A800F@marx.e.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <20070331073831.GE13736@volo.donarmstrong.com> Message-ID: <20070401190854.GC10379@yukidoke.org> > I can't quite do that, because it's Easter Sunday, but it'd work any > other week. > > The 9th UTC would work (10th JST); but not sure about everyone else. Sure, ~22UTC on Sundays works for me in general and, I suppose, in this c ase in particular although that's more than a week away and I've got stuff to talk about already. We've got ~60 days to has this stuff out so if our first meeting is on the 9th, let's all ready the draft now and throw out issues we're going to bring up before. Regards, Mako -- Benjamin Mako Hill mako at atdot.cc http://mako.cc/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. --RMS -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/committee-d/attachments/20070401/4b6025e4/attachment.pgp From brett at fsf.org Mon Apr 2 17:11:03 2007 From: brett at fsf.org (Brett Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 17:11:03 -0400 Subject: [Committee-d] Draft 3 of GPLv3 Released In-Reply-To: <20070401190854.GC10379@yukidoke.org> References: <460A79A9.1030204@softwarefreedom.org> <20070328211022.GA13736@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20070329192018.3D9112A800F@marx.e.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <20070331073831.GE13736@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20070401190854.GC10379@yukidoke.org> Message-ID: <20070402211103.GL10974@fencepost.gnu.org> On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 03:08:54PM -0400, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > Sure, ~22UTC on Sundays works for me in general and, I suppose, in this > c ase in particular although that's more than a week away and I've got > stuff to talk about already. We've got ~60 days to has this stuff out so > if our first meeting is on the 9th, let's all ready the draft now and > throw out issues we're going to bring up before. I don't know if I'm in the committee per se, and I certainly don't want to give you all orders or anything, but I definitely think this is a good idea. Now that we're trying to finalize the license, we're trying to open up and take input from a lot more people. The committee process hasn't worked the way it was originally designed; rather than compiling and addressing points on the comment system, most of them have come up with their own issues to discuss. I think that, on the whole, that's probably been a good thing for us, but it has had some unfortunate side effects. In particular, it's even less clear that we're hearing from all the different constituencies we want to hear from. So we're trying to actively engage the whole community. Hence, I'm blogging about issues as they come up (http://fsf.org/blogs/licensing/), and there's a FAQ about the draft, and a Q&A going on on Groklaw. We're thinking about more. For example, I can't commit to this right now, but we're thinking about hosting public IRC meetings about the draft, too. (Logistics is the big thing holding us back there.) We want everybody to be up to speed and able to contribute meaningfully to the conversation so we can feel confident that everything's been addressed. I think I'm getting a little off-topic. I think there's two points I want to make. First: I would encourage you all to worry less about formal structure and more about just providing us with whatever feedback you feel is appropriate. IRC meetings with this committee have been very helpful in hashing out particular issues quickly, but they have been hard to schedule. As far as I'm concerned, discussion over the mailing list -- or any other sort of collaboration, really -- is just as valuable as IRC meetings. No need to bottle everything up. Second, if you have any ideas for how the FSF might be able to engage the free software community and encourage more feedback, please let me know; I'm all ears. In particular, pretty soon we'll be looking to approach major free software projects to check with them to see if they have any particular feedback we might not have already heard, so if you have ins with groups like that and could help find people to talk to, that'd be especially helpful. If there are any questions or concrens about any of this, please don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks, -- Brett Smith Licensing Compliance Engineer, Free Software Foundation From info-gplv3 at gplv3.fsf.org Tue Apr 3 14:44:50 2007 From: info-gplv3 at gplv3.fsf.org (GPLv3 Information) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 14:44:50 -0400 Subject: [Committee-d] [Info-gplv3] Second discussion draft of LGPLv3 released Message-ID: <20070403184450.GP10974@fencepost.gnu.org> We have released a new discussion draft for version 3 of the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPLv3). Since the license is currently written as a set of additional permissions on top of GPLv3, a number of terms have been updated to reflect changes in the GPLv3 draft released last week. Additionally, we have made a few small adjustments to clarify particular requirements. We received some very helpful comments on the previous discussion draft of LGPL, and unfortunately we were not able to come to a final decision about how to address all of those before releasing this draft. They are still under consideration, and will be handled fully in a future draft, before the final release of the license. In the meantime, we hope this new text will provide the free software community with an up-to-date base for additional feedback. You can learn more about the new draft at . There, you'll find the latest text, rationale for the changes we've made, instructions for submitting comments, and more. We look forward to your feedback. For any questions, please contact: Brett Smith Licensing Compliance Engineer Free Software Foundation 617-542-5942 x18 brett at fsf.org _______________________________________________ Info-gplv3 mailing list Info-gplv3 at gplv3.fsf.org http://gplv3.fsf.org From mako at atdot.cc Tue Apr 10 12:55:33 2007 From: mako at atdot.cc (Benj. Mako Hill) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:55:33 -0400 Subject: [Committee-d] Meeting Today (UTC22) Message-ID: <20070410165533.GX28634@yukidoke.org> If we met this weekend, I managed to miss it. If those that are around would be able to meet at our previously time, let's do it. That's Tuesday (Today), at UTC 22:00. I'm going to be there having a meeting as long as it's not just me, I'll talk to whoever else is there and try to set some priorities for myself in the next week leading up to whenever it is that we have a real meeting. -- Benjamin Mako Hill mako at atdot.cc http://mako.cc/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. --RMS -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature Url : http://gplv3.fsf.org/pipermail/committee-d/attachments/20070410/3fbc626d/attachment.pgp