Regarding the text:onveying the Program In section: gpl3.libertyordeath.p0.s3 Submitted by: ratiodocon 2006-07-31 at 15:38 EDT
0 agree:
noted by ratiodocon 2006-07-31 at 15:38 EDT:
The example given here is reworded slightly to make
it clearer that it is acceptance of the patent license (a
self-imposition of conditions) that activates the section, and that the
effective terms of the patent license must actually prohibit exercise of
GPL freedoms by downstream recipients. A distributor who accepts a
patent license that does not activate this section may nonetheless be
required to comply with the second paragraph of section 11.
Ok, I just made comment 1566 about this sentence before seeing this
comment. The above explanation helps, but I'm afraid it was not at all
clear to me from the actual license text. It was only after reading the
text several times that I could see the possibility of this
interpretation. Perhaps I am unduly influenced by its semblance to
section 7 of GPLv2, which has been interpreted on the record by Eben
Moglen to mean something different from the above. (He says that
effectively any private patent license activates that section.)
If you really want to clarify this example, make it "if you accept a
patent license that prohibits _you_ from passing along freedoms ...".
But then it gets painfully tautological. So I still think it can be
dropped without harm.
Regarding the text:if you accept a patent license that prohibits royalty-free conveying by those who receive copies directly or indirectly through you, then the only way you could satisfy both it and this License would be to refrain entirely from conveying the Program. In section: gpl3.libertyordeath.p0.s3 Submitted by: pimlotton 2006-08-03 at 02:27 EDT
3 agree: MathFox, cyd, jamesgnz
noted by pimlotton 2006-08-03 at 02:27 EDT:
There are some objections to this sentence in draft 1, which I agree with. I want to state the objections more forcefully, and propose a very simple solution.
I consider the "for example" in section 7 of the GPLv2 (from which this sentence derives) its weakest point. (See http://lwn.net/Articles/167253/ , http://lwn.net/Articles/191378/ .) Similar criticism applies to this draft. The connection between the "example" and the preceeding is dubious. Even the language is confused: How does my patent license prohibit anyone else anything?
The silver lining: Everything this sentence tries to accomplish is already covered in much clearer, more explicit terms by the new section 11! So the "for example" in section 12 is mere baggage and can be dropped without losing anything.
Comment 1491: Clarifying example
Regarding the text:
In section: gpl3.libertyordeath.p0.s3
Submitted by: ratiodoc on 2006-07-31 at 15:38 EDT
0 agree:
noted by ratiodoc on 2006-07-31 at 15:38 EDT: noted by pimlott on 2006-08-03 at 02:46 EDT:
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Child comment of 1491: 1566: this "example" is weak, obviated by section 11 ±
Comment 1566: this "example" is weak, obviated by section 11
Regarding the text:
In section: gpl3.libertyordeath.p0.s3
Submitted by: pimlott on 2006-08-03 at 02:27 EDT
3 agree: MathFox, cyd, jamesgnz
noted by pimlott on 2006-08-03 at 02:27 EDT: noted by pimlott on 2006-08-03 at 02:47 EDT: noted by novalis on 2006-08-04 at 14:19 EDT:
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